Interview Tom di Kerrang! Membahas Blink-182 & AVA
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Interview Tom di Kerrang! Membahas Blink-182 & AVA
by dath Thu 17 Feb 2011, 08:39
oke jadi ini interview terbaru Kerrang! dengan Tom di edisi pertengahan Februari.
sebenernya ini wawancara untuk AVA, tapi si Kerrang! & Tom malah lebih banyak menyinggung blink (tepatnya membanding-bandingkan blink dengan AVA). quite emotional article. saya aja sampe kesel bacanya
oh iya, saya ga dapet scan nya, cuma ada yg ngetik ulang artikel nya di avamovement
saya mau translate inti-intinya aja ya, terutama yg menyangkut AVA vs blink
mari diskusikan
sebenernya ini wawancara untuk AVA, tapi si Kerrang! & Tom malah lebih banyak menyinggung blink (tepatnya membanding-bandingkan blink dengan AVA). quite emotional article. saya aja sampe kesel bacanya
oh iya, saya ga dapet scan nya, cuma ada yg ngetik ulang artikel nya di avamovement
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"Tom DeLonge bats away the question of what exactly he's doing here with a smile. You'd have thought, given that he's midway through recording a Blink 182 album - their first since the thawing of their frosty relationships - that he's be in sun-kissed California, bolted to the studio and chirpy melodies.
Instead, he's here with his other band Angels & Airwaves, in a grey North London dressing room, wrapped against the cold, as a bitter wind rattles the windows, on the final date of a four-show stop. Why?
"I'm probably the busiest man in show business," he says with a shrug. He's certainly one of the more unexpectedly ambitious.
From the evidence of 10 years ago, it would be hard to imagine the Tom DeLonge of 2011. Then he was, as he admits, "the dickhead from Blink 182". He had a career partly based on jokes about his mum, songs that were deliberately juvenile, and was headed for easy street on the back of Blink 182's million dollar earning power.
But six years ago, he veered sharply from that road and made things hard for himself. He's here in London, with the band that swiftly followed Blink 182's "indefinite hiatus", the epically-intentioned Angels & Airwaves. Once, all he was selling were three-minute, uplifting ditties. Now, as he was in 2006 when AVA released their first album We Don't Need To Whisper, he's trying to persuade people to buy into his films, his art projects, his wild ideas and, above all, his hope. And he's doing it in far smaller venues than he used to in Blink, to a much harder to convince crowd, who are still wary that his youthful idiot reputation has been replaced by a far more fanciful one as part dreamer, part businessman.
Evidence of the first half of his personality comes in the grand statements of intent he has always attached to AVA. Though the much publicised, painkiller addiction-inspired "we will change the world" quotes may have attracted ridicule, admirably, he's not backed down. Today, for example, he comes touting Angels & Airwaves' long-awaited first film, Love, an historical, sci-fi saga (if such a thing is possible) made for just $500,000 (around £310,300) but, from the look of the trailer, appearing to cost much more. It's part of an even biggerproject involving their 2010 album of the same name, and it's follow-up Love Part II - both of which will form a double album. The last band to have ever attempted such an audacious coupling of double album and feature film was Pink Floyd with The Wall (in 1982). Not dreadful company to be keeping.
But that's only part of his idealist plan. There's more: he has schemes for websites that will act as alternative news sources, he has hopes for documentaries, for graphic novels, for two more films and to... well... still change the world. He talks about love, hope, ambition and he does so with a beatific fervour. And though it's easy to be cynical, you don't see many of his standing trying quite so hard to make the world a better place.
If all these things were just dreams, though, they would be laudable but insignificant. But Tom has a knack for making his dreams reality - nobody really expected his film to see the light of day, for example, yet here it is.
Perhaps that's where the other side of him comes in: the businessman. The first thing Tom DeLonge talks about today is the fact he's just set up another company, called confusingly enough, Angels And Airwaves. This is to go alongside his others, Macbeth shoes, Loserkids, Modlife and more. Hidden within the baggy shorts and fart jokes of his past, it seem a shrewd, go-getting entrepreneur lurked, and he'll tell you that he "spent 15 years defining a generation of suburbanites. I understand kids. I understand how the world works, how the economy works, how business works, how art works, so I want to be able to grab from all of that and do something special".
For a 35-year-old, whose pop-punk career should be behind him, Tom is doing something remarkable in scope. It seems a long time since he was responsible for a song like f**K A Dog.
The question he says he gets asked most by journalists is why he's doing all this. It seems a fair one. After all, Blink 182 played to a potential audience of 200,000 people last summer when they headlined Reading and Leeds. The money for performing such a high profile gig is vast. So, why bother with anything else?
"It's because Angels & Airwaves is a fucking awesome band," Tom says. "We're going to do things with that no-one has ever done in the history of rock 'n' roll."
It is, admittedly, hard to imagine saying something like that about Blink 182. So does he do Angels & Airwaves for creative satisfaction and Blink for the money?
"Blink does pay the bills, I'm not going to say it doesn't," he says. "So, yes, I had to have a day job as well - so Blink came back into my life. And it's been wonderful. But in Blink I only get to be part of myself. In Angels & Airwaves, I get to be all of myself."
It's possible to read many things into that last sentence, chief of which being that he plays in Blink 182 with gritted teeth."Not at all," he says. "Being able to be a musician on that level is every kid's dream, and being able to play with those guys is a dream too."
But he has moved on and, you sense, if you put a gun to his head, he'd choose AVA over Blink in a second. It's understandable too. Wouldn't it be a bit weird if, aged 35, he was still singing about first dates and teenage girls as if he meant it?
This makes him different to his old friend, Mark Hoppus. He, it seems, is perfectly happy with what he's got.
"He's so smart and satisfied with where he's at and what he's doing," says Tom. "But that's my biggest curse: I can't find that. If I'm not creating something, that's when I want to start doing drugs again. So the Blink thing is good on so many levels."
While Blink may be keeping him from a return to the painkillers he became addicted to when they took their hiatus, it probably doesn't allow him to explore the more serious music he yearns to make. These days, Tom wants to inspire emotional intensity in his songs - something for which Blink 182, for all their life-affirming thrills, are not really equipped.
"No, [Blink] wasn't designed to do that," he says. "The emotional intensity in Blink is about youth, rebellion and taking the piss out of ourselves - and that's awesome. Every kid needs some thing that's about playing fast and telling people to f**K off. But's it's a different thing in Angels & Airwaves."
It's that battle to prove he has changed, though, that Tom says is the biggest challenge. It's one not helped, you sense, by the fact Blink 182's reformation means he now has to be both joker-Tom and serious-Tom depending on which band he's playing in.
"I know why it's so hard for people to swallow [AVA]," he says, "People go, 'He's hat shithead that ran around naked, telling dick jokes - now he's acting all pretentious, talking about his message and being some deep artist'. I get that. I can understand it.
"So," he adds, "I will have to work hard to pound that guy in the face with quality art. One day, that guy will realise I really believe this."
Isn't pounding people in the face with art trickier, though, if you're also the f**K A Dog guy?
"People know I'm the dickhead from Blink 182, so they don't feel I'm preaching to them, because they know who I really am," he says. "They know I'm just like them underneath. I'm nots ome full of myself, crazy, serious artist guy."
There's an irony, though. One reason Tom's so determined to prove Angels & Airwaves' worth is a desire to prove himself. Should he succeed, some of his motivation might just evaporate.
"It wouldn't resonate as much," he admits. "I think artists do their best work when they're constantly trying to prove something, because they're always trying to be better."
Is this more about the journey then, the desire to prove, than the destination?
"That's a really good way to put it," he says. "That's eerily on point. It's bout the journey. I don't care about the past, I only care about tomorrow."
When Blink 182 did reconvene after their hiatus in 2009, there were some questions in both Angels & Airwaves' minds and the members of Blink's minds as to Tom DeLonge's loyalties.
"The guys in Angels & Airwaves were wondering how I felt," he says. "Those questions lasted about two weeks because I was going nuts to get the film and double record together. I think people realised where my heart was really quickly. I think I've proved my allegiance to both projects."
Blink, though, is the least time and emotion-consuming of the two. Though their album is due, Tom says, in June, their touring schedule will not be vast due to drummer Travis Barker's understandable reluctance to fly after his 2008 plane crash.
It means he can concentrate on the future of Angels & Airwaves, and it's one Tom hopes will be independent as possible. Part of the reason he rejoined Blink, he admits, is because that deal would allow the record company to free AVA from their record deal."When Blink got back together, that was the defining moment that allowed the record label to let Angels & Airwaves go - if I fulfilled my contract with Blink," he says. "[I said] 'I'll happily do more Blink records, but just let me be free with this.' That never would have happened if Blink hadn't got back together."
That independent future is one about which Tom DeLonge is almost unbearably excited. He says he's reluctant to "open the door in[his] head about what [he] wants to do with this band", so open are the possibilities. However, the fact that he's in charge of his own destiny, and not under a record label's thumb, means Angels & Airwaves will, if he gets his way, be spiralling ambitiously into the sun - or will go down trying.
And in many ways, isn't this nice to hear? A millionaire rock star who'd rather explore art projects, filmmaking, and inspire hope than to play to thousands of people of people a night, who'd rather prove he has greater depths and dream, but risk ridicule should he fall.
"I feel," he says finally, "that for the first time this is all going to work. Everything I've dreamed of, everything I've wanted, we can finally do."
saya mau translate inti-intinya aja ya, terutama yg menyangkut AVA vs blink
blink-182 mengadakan show dengan penonton lebih dari 200.000 orang musim panas lalu di Reading & Leeds Festival. Uang yang didapat dari penampilan kelas-atas itu pastilah sangat banyak. Lalu mengapa mengganggunya dengan hal lain (AVA)?
Itu karena Angels & Airwaves adalah band yang sangat-sangat keren (menabjubkan). Kami akan melakukan sesuatu yang belum pernah dilakukan sebelumnya di sejarah musik Rock n' Roll.
Sepertinya sulit membayangkan anda berkata seperti itu ketika ditanyakan soal blink-182. Jadi apakah anda bermain musik bersama Angels & Airwaves untuk kepuasan kreatif anda dan anda bermain musik bersama blink untuk uang?
Blink menghasilkan banyak uang (pay the bills), saya tidak akan berbohong. Saya harus punya pekerjaan tetap - lalu Blink kembali ke kehidupan saya. Itu sangat menyenangkan. Tapi di Blink saya hanya menjadi sebagian dari diri saya. Di Angels & Airwaves saya sepenuhnya menjadi diri saya sendiri
Tapi Tom telah berubah, dan jika anda menodongkan pistol ke kepalanya, dia pasti akan memilih AVA dibandingkan Blink. Hal ini dapat dimengerti. Pasti akan mengerikan jika, seorang dengan usia 35 tahun, masih menyanyikan tentang kencan pertama dan gadis-gadis remaja?
Ini yang membuat Tom berbeda dari teman lamanya, Mark Hoppus. Mark, kelihatannya sangat senang dan puas dengan apa yang telah didapatkannya sekarang.
Dia (Mark) sangat pintar dan dia puas dengan dimana dia berada sekarang dan juga puas dengan apa yang dia lakukan. Tapi itulah kutukan terbesar saya. Saya tidak bisa seperti itu. Jika saya tidak membuat/menciptakan sesuatu, saat itulah saya mulai mengkonsumsi obat-obatan lagi. Jadi semua kesibukan dari Blink sekarang sangat bagus untuk beberapa hal.
Lalu apakah anda ingin mengisnpirasi intensitas emosi pada lagu-lagu anda, khususnya di Blink-182? Seperti penegasan tentang kehidupan dan pesan-pesan lainnya?
Tidak, Blink tidak dirancang untuk melakukan itu. Intensitas emosional di dalam Blink adalah tentang jiwa muda, pemberontakan, dan berbuat masa bodoh - dan itu sangat keren. Setiap anak membutuhkan sesuatu tentang permainan cepat dan berkata kepada orang lain untuk pergi/minggir. Tapi itu adalah hal lain jika di Angels & Airwaves.
Perubahan yang dilakukan Tom ini dianggap sebagai tantangan olehnya. Faktanya, dengan reuni Blink-182 berarti dia harus menjadi Tom-yang-senang-bercanda dan Tom-yang-serius, tergantung di band mana ia sedang bermain.
Saya tahu kenapa orang-orang sulit menerima AVA. Orang-orang pergi menjauh, berkata bahwa 'dia (Tom) itu adalah berandalan yang lari sambil telanjang dan sering berkata lelucon-lelucon kasar - namun sekarang dia bertingkah dengan berpura-pura, berkata tentang pesan yang dibawanya dan menjadi artis yang serius.' Saya paham akan itu. Saya mengerti.
Tom menambahkan: Saya akan bekerja keras dan akan menghajar muka orang-orang tersebut dengan karya-karya saya yang berkualitas. Suatu hari nanti, mereka akan sadar bahwa saya sangat-sangat serius.
Ketika Blink bersatu kembali setelah hiatus pada tahun 2009, ada beberapa pertanyaan, baik dari pikiran anggota AVA maupun Blink tentang loyalitas Tom
Para anggota AVA membayangkan apa yang saya rasakan saat ini. Pertanyaan itu bertahan selama 2 minggu karena saya sedang stress untuk launching film & double-album bersama-sama. Saya rasa orang-orang telah sadar dimana hati saya yang sebenarnya. Saya rasa saya telah membuktikan kesetiaan saya pada kedua band ini.
Alasan lainnya kenapa ia mau kembali bersama Blink, diakuinya, adalah adanya perjanjian yang membolehkan perusahaan rekaman untuk membebaskan AVA dari perjanjian kontrak rekaman (sekarang menjadi indie label).
Ketika Blink kembali bersama, itu adalah momen yang menentukan yang membolehkan label rekaman untuk melepaskan AVA - dengan syarat jika saya memenuhi kontrak saya dengan Blink.
Saya kemudian berkata: 'Saya akan lebih senang melakukan lebih banyak rekaman bersama Blink, tapi biarkan saya merasa bebas dengan ini (AVA).' Ini tidak akan terjadi jika Blink tidak melakukan reuni.
Tom berkata bahwa ia akan merasa lebih bebas jika AVA berada di label independen. Jadi ia tidak merasa tertekan dengan kemauan label, dan juga dia dapat lebih bebas mengekspresikan musik di AVA.
Lalu pada akhirnya, apakah ini terdengar bagus? Seorang bintang rock kaya raya yang lebih senang mengeksplor proyek seni, membuat film, dan menginspirasikan harapan daripada untuk manggung di hadapan ribuan orang dalam satu malam, yang lebih ingin membuktikan bahwa dia mempunyai keseriusan dan mimpi yang dalam, tapi dengan risiko ejekan & cemoohan.
Saya merasakannya. Untuk pertama kalinya ini semua hal akan bekerja. Semua yang saya impikan, semua yang saya mau, pada akhirnya kita dapat melakukannya.
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by ardigress Thu 17 Feb 2011, 08:54
waduuuuhhhh..
kita hanya butuh LOYALITAS dan TOTALITAS mas tom delonge !!!
kita hanya butuh LOYALITAS dan TOTALITAS mas tom delonge !!!
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by wallister Thu 17 Feb 2011, 11:33
tom goblog anying edan
ges teu kudu reunian lah anying ges bubarken dei blink meh jadi legend pakop siah tom BIG MIDDLE FINGER FOR YOU!!
ges teu kudu reunian lah anying ges bubarken dei blink meh jadi legend pakop siah tom BIG MIDDLE FINGER FOR YOU!!
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by wallister Thu 17 Feb 2011, 11:38
oo heeuh sakalian bubar ken eta ava ges sia mah tom jualan spokat w
sakalian jd tukang sol keliling anying g banget sia
sakalian jd tukang sol keliling anying g banget sia
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by posh-boy Thu 17 Feb 2011, 13:53
goblog bgt..
udah mason ya kyk gitu, dia ngerasa bebas ama band mason dia (baca: AVA)
kalo di AVA dia leader, jadi berasa AVA itu proyek solo Tom DeLonge (kyk tom delonge bernyanyi diiringi 3 musisi, DK, matt, atom) gak ada yg berani ngatur dia, mau nyebarin mason mah bebas2 aja..
jujur ni, ane lebih excited nungguin album solo travis ketimbang album nunggu AVA love part 2..
udah mason ya kyk gitu, dia ngerasa bebas ama band mason dia (baca: AVA)
kalo di AVA dia leader, jadi berasa AVA itu proyek solo Tom DeLonge (kyk tom delonge bernyanyi diiringi 3 musisi, DK, matt, atom) gak ada yg berani ngatur dia, mau nyebarin mason mah bebas2 aja..
jujur ni, ane lebih excited nungguin album solo travis ketimbang album nunggu AVA love part 2..
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by himynameischandra Thu 17 Feb 2011, 14:35
Mark Hoppus 
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by himynameischandra Thu 17 Feb 2011, 14:42
moderator nih???bigryan wrote:
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by bigryan Thu 17 Feb 2011, 14:49
himynameischandra wrote:moderator nih???bigryan wrote:
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by dath Thu 17 Feb 2011, 16:12
bigryan wrote:
bigryan wrote:himynameischandra wrote:moderator nih???bigryan wrote:
jangan posting emoticon doang
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BTT
si Mark sama Travis baca ga yah kira-kira?
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by wallister Thu 17 Feb 2011, 17:44
oh god makin cinta aing k plus 44
f**K tom with his ava
f**K tom with his ava
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by wallister Thu 17 Feb 2011, 18:03
BUBARKAN AVA!!
MASIH MENDING ASTONIA YG TERKENAL DARIPADA AVA!!
MASIH MENDING ASTONIA YG TERKENAL DARIPADA AVA!!
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by qyamosaurus Thu 17 Feb 2011, 18:59
hidup tom delonge!!!bubarkan AVA!!
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by bigryan Thu 17 Feb 2011, 19:10
kan satu gambar mendeskripsikan beribu kata masbrodath wrote:bigryan wrote:bigryan wrote:himynameischandra wrote:moderator nih???bigryan wrote:
jangan posting emoticon doang
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BTT
si Mark sama Travis baca ga yah kira-kira?
gak di twitter gak disini org nya sama semua kayaknyaqyamosaurus wrote:hidup tom delonge!!!bubarkan AVA!!
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by qyamosaurus Thu 17 Feb 2011, 19:15
@bigmahoryan
wih disini momodnya ente ternyata
gajadi ah
wih disini momodnya ente ternyata
gajadi ah
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by dath Thu 17 Feb 2011, 19:23
seharusnya udah nyadar dari dulu ya 
waktu blink konser 2009 dulu, Tom pake kaos LOVE terus, udah gitu artwork gitar nya juga yg POET.
tapi kalo di AVA, apa dia pernah promosiin blink? haha
uang terus otaknya
waktu blink konser 2009 dulu, Tom pake kaos LOVE terus, udah gitu artwork gitar nya juga yg POET.
tapi kalo di AVA, apa dia pernah promosiin blink? haha
uang terus otaknya
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by qyamosaurus Thu 17 Feb 2011, 19:25
cuma perasaanmu saja dat,tom sayang mark sama travis kokdath wrote:seharusnya udah nyadar dari dulu ya
waktu blink konser 2009 dulu, Tom pake kaos LOVE terus, udah gitu artwork gitar nya juga yg POET.
tapi kalo di AVA, apa dia pernah promosiin blink? haha
uang terus otaknya
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by Jessica Thu 17 Feb 2011, 22:46
wah, dia bener berubah.
ada udang di balik batunya BLINK.
jadi penasaran pengaruhnya ke musik Blink.
ada udang di balik batunya BLINK.
jadi penasaran pengaruhnya ke musik Blink.
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by wallister Thu 17 Feb 2011, 22:56
mark yang cabal ea
jalanin lg +44 ny donk jangan mau kalah ama afuck
jalanin lg +44 ny donk jangan mau kalah ama afuck
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by posh-boy Fri 18 Feb 2011, 13:18
udah ane bilang, tom delonge otaknya udah kecuci mason!!
tujuan mason adalah mem-brainwash pengikutnya utk memperkaya diri sendiri..
sehingga kumpulan para mason ini (yg buka usaha selain macbeth, contoh: danone, nokia, wendy's dll) bersatu membiayai kebutuhan para penguasa2 dunia utk melakukan globalisasi, perang dingin, zionisme dan membangun kembali haikal sulaiman di palestina!!
tujuan mason adalah mem-brainwash pengikutnya utk memperkaya diri sendiri..
sehingga kumpulan para mason ini (yg buka usaha selain macbeth, contoh: danone, nokia, wendy's dll) bersatu membiayai kebutuhan para penguasa2 dunia utk melakukan globalisasi, perang dingin, zionisme dan membangun kembali haikal sulaiman di palestina!!
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by xTNRx Fri 18 Feb 2011, 19:36
boikot tom pelong, boikot ava, boikot macbeth. 
gilaaaaa emang jenius bener ni orang, ga sia2 baca artikelnya. profit oriented banget, salut dah. mirip2 ahmad dhani
gilaaaaa emang jenius bener ni orang, ga sia2 baca artikelnya. profit oriented banget, salut dah. mirip2 ahmad dhani
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Re: Interview Tom di Kerrang! Membahas Blink-182 & AVA
by Jessica Mon 21 Feb 2011, 21:14
posh-boy wrote:udah ane bilang, tom delonge otaknya udah kecuci mason!!
tujuan mason adalah mem-brainwash pengikutnya utk memperkaya diri sendiri..
sehingga kumpulan para mason ini (yg buka usaha selain macbeth, contoh: danone, nokia, wendy's dll) bersatu membiayai kebutuhan para penguasa2 dunia utk melakukan globalisasi, perang dingin, zionisme dan membangun kembali haikal sulaiman di palestina!!
duh, masih suka minum aqua, dan konsumsi produk danone yang lain...
hp juga masih nokia..
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Re: Interview Tom di Kerrang! Membahas Blink-182 & AVA
by luthfi.nugraha Sun 27 Feb 2011, 12:30
apakah emoticon yang cocok buat si oknum tom delonge ini ?
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Re: Interview Tom di Kerrang! Membahas Blink-182 & AVA
by greenray Tue 01 Mar 2011, 18:40
luthfi.nugraha wrote:apakah emoticon yang cocok buat si oknum tom delonge ini ?
aing ges baca yeh lut, parah oge si tom....
aduh first post ya
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